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Played again last night. Lots of trolls, evil treants, weird plants and ghouls.

There's also the fact that due to the extreme heat in Kinshasa that day the ropes were incredibly loose; Ali's manager had actually *tightened* the ropes just hours before the match and they were still loose due to the heat having softened the materials. This made rope-a-dope even more effective as the sagging ropes took even more of the force than anyone expected them to.

Perhaps, in the sense that a myocardial infarction and a coronary occlusion are two separate and notably different things. But they involve the same area, produce the same outcome, and wreak havoc in pretty much the same way, so their differences don't seem to make a difference.

A few years ago I saw that a CNN show had fallen behind a Cooking channel show in ratings. Probably one of my favorite 10 things that happened that year. It's been wonderful watching CNN/ABC/MSNBC/CBS/FOX online news sort of fragment and rebrand and turn into little more than irrelevant outrage clickbait hatep0rn with a side of underwear ads. It's been astounding watching the rise of true unfiltered citizen journalism made possible by Twitter and Tiktok and others. That said, - Radio stations still get their news from the media giants. - TVs still have endless media giant news sources readily available right up front, and most US adults still watch ~3 hours of TV a day. Under 65's at lower rates, but hardly nothing.. - Even though newspapers are going the way of the buggy whip, there are still newspapers everywhere. Still high levels of trust in 'BigNews'. Feb 2022: I smile and don't frown when I hear of mainstream media's continued decline. But it ain't fallen yet.

What do you think you will gain if you decide to believe there is no God? I’m being quite serious about this. I’m very interested to learn how you think you might benefit if you decide to surrender to unbelief?

Thanks for that. I had never noticed that Foreman's fighting style proceeded from using his extended arms to control and set up his opponent. Funny thing is that that is exactly what the Diaz brothers did in the UFC, especially Nate. Really unorthodox fighting style, looks more like tai chi than boxing, but really super effective. Probably helps if you're significantly taller than your opponent, which Nate usually was.

@Vort, @Ironhold One of the best boxing analysis videos out there.

All that said, (and you are right) the rope a dope was a brilliant strategy. Foreman was maybe the strongest fighter in history. Ali took a massive beating and managed to still win!

Worlds are colliding my friend. When it comes to politics we disagree totally. When it comes to sports-Hakeem being one of the best centers of all time, Foreman being vastly underrated, we agree 10,000%

Oh of course not. Ali, for all the controversy, is on my top 5 p4p list with Ricardo Lopez, Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard (my all time favorite boxer) and Joe Louis. You can also make the case Floyd Mayweather Jr is top 5. For heavyweights, I would put Holmes in my top 15, but below Foreman.

Holmes was a fine fighter, a heavyweight contender, but no one believes that Larry Holmes was a better fighter than Muhammed Ali.

And speaking of underrated Ali opponents, Ken Norton and Larry Holmes are also criminally underrated. Technically Ali beat Norton twice and lost once, but Norton butchered Ali in all three fights. Holmes beat Ali when Ali was very old.

Well @Vort, you’ll hate this but I agree with every word you said. Foreman should be ranked much much higher in heavyweight rankings, and even pound for pound rankings.

George Foreman was as much an anomaly as Muhammed Ali. Foreman was (IMO) the most intimidating heavyweight ever. At his best, the man was unstoppable. He was huge, bigger than Ali (who was 6'3" and 216 lbs vs. Foreman's 6'4" and 220 lbs; by comparison, the previous generation's arguably greatest heavyweights were Sonny Liston at 6'1" and 215-220 lbs, and Rocky Marciano, a GOAT contender, at a mere 5'10" and about 190 lbs). Foreman also hit harder than anyone else I've ever seen. And he was durable. Remember, George Foreman decided to return to boxing in his 40s, and at 45 years old—FORTY-FIVE YEARS OLD!!!— once again became the heavyweight boxing champion of the world. That's some superhuman performance there. Sadly for Foreman, on that fateful night in Kinshasa in what was then called Zaire, he didn't have the mental toughness to withstand Ali's ceaseless verbal barrage of insults and belittling. Just added fuel to the rope-a-dope. Foreman didn't fight a smart fight, so he got beaten. If he had fought Ali ten times, I bet he would have won at least six of them. But that's not how it works, is it?

No, but it’s like George Foreman in round 8 of the Rumble in the Jungle. Taking a serious beating and we all know the inevitable outcome.

Those are two separate and notably different things.

I find it hard to talk about the judgemental-ness of others without becoming judgemental myself. When someone asks me "Am I a Christian?" I answer yes... because I believe that answer is correct. When someone (rarely) asks "Why do "others" consider you to not be Christian?" and I can answer that one too. There is a doctrinal difference that is at the foundation of the disagreement. A lot of people like to make a big deal of the difference, but for me when I ask myself if I were to believe differently on the doctrinal point would I be acting differently. And I have to say the answer is No. While I disagree with the other doctrinal interpretation for many reasons I have never found the difference to make a difference in how I act.

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Tomorrow Jan 22 is the Inauguration