Still_Small_Voice Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 posted by Bill Galluccio -- November 15th 2019 The National Football League announced that Cleveland Browns' defensive end Myles Garrett has been suspended indefinitely following an ugly incident at the tail end of the Browns 21-7 victory against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday (November 14) night. The Browns were just eight seconds away from their fourth win of the season when the game spiraled out of control. The Steelers were running what they thought would be one final play when Garrett took down Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph after he dumped the football off to running back Trey Edmunds. The two players tussled on the ground, and Garrett ripped Rudolph's helmet off his head. As the two players stood up, they started to argue and push each other. Steelers offensive linemen Matt Feiler and David DeCastro tried to break it up, but Garrett clocked Rudolph on the head with his own helmet. As the two players fought, both teams rushed to the endzone sparking a melee between the players. After the players were separated and officials regained control of the game, Garrett, Brown's defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi, and Steelers' center Maurkice Pouncey were ejected for their roles in the fight. After the game, Garrett apologized for losing his cool and admitted that his actions would hurt the team in the long term. Read more at: https://knrs.iheart.com/content/2019-11-15-myles-garrett-gets-ejected-for-hitting-steelers-qb-with-his-own-helmet/ Quote
Still_Small_Voice Posted November 15, 2019 Author Report Posted November 15, 2019 I watched the end of this football game on this. After this happened it appeared everyone was in shock for several minutes over this fight. It's too bad Myles got that angry and acted in a violent and completely irrational way during the game. Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Still_Small_Voice said: After the game, Garrett apologized for losing his cool and admitted that his actions would hurt the team in the long term. That right there means he has more integrity than many of us do. To not only apologize, but to admit that he "hurt the team" shows great maturity. Sure, he lost his cool, did something really nasty, and needs to be punished for it. But apologizing is the first step towards making things right again. Quote
anatess2 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 I read Browns' victory and my eyes popped out of its sockets, I couldn't read what happened to Myles. Quote
omegaseamaster75 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, MormonGator said: That right there means he has more integrity than many of us do. To not only apologize, but to admit that he "hurt the team" shows great maturity. Sure, he lost his cool, did something really nasty, and needs to be punished for it. But apologizing is the first step towards making things right again. Good for him for being accountable, but he should be out of football forever. Quote
Vort Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Still_Small_Voice said: It's too bad Myles got that angry and acted in a violent and completely irrational way during the game. Violence at a football game is utterly unacceptable. Traveler and Still_Small_Voice 1 1 Quote
JohnsonJones Posted November 15, 2019 Report Posted November 15, 2019 What reason did Garret give for doing this? There must have been some cause for why he attacked the other teams quarterback. Before knowing whether this was good or bad I would like to know what spurred this reaction from him. His team was already winning, so what occurred to promote this violence in him. If he was sucker punched or some other act right before this or during a play I might still think what he did was unacceptable, but was more justified than what appears to be that he did it...just because. Quote
mirkwood Posted November 16, 2019 Report Posted November 16, 2019 I was watching a video and one of the commentators said it looked like Rudolph kicked him in the crotch. He definitely went after his helmet. Rudolph should also be facing punishment for his actions. Quote
Guest Godless Posted November 16, 2019 Report Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, mirkwood said: I was watching a video and one of the commentators said it looked like Rudolph kicked him in the crotch. He definitely went after his helmet. Rudolph should also be facing punishment for his actions. Yep. Rudolph attempted to remove Garrett's helmet first, then kicked him in the groin. Garrett's actions were absolutely inexcusable, but Rudolph wasn't innocent in this fiasco. 7 hours ago, omegaseamaster75 said: Good for him for being accountable, but he should be out of football forever. Disagree. As I said, Garrett's actions were inexcusable, but he didn't initiate the altercation, and he seemed genuinely remorseful afterward. You rarely see that from players after a fight or dirty play. Ndamukong Suh and Vontaze Burfict come to mind, and the latter's career may finally be over. Quote
Guest Godless Posted November 16, 2019 Report Posted November 16, 2019 If nothing else, we got some good memes out of it. Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted November 16, 2019 Report Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Godless said: Disagree. As I said, Garrett's actions were inexcusable, but he didn't initiate the altercation, and he seemed genuinely remorseful afterward. You rarely see that from players after a fight or dirty play I agree. He needs a firm punishment, but this is the NFL we are talking about. Not exactly known for their integrity and wisdom when it comes to disciplining players. For his own sake, he needs to learn how to control himself. It never ends well for people who can't control their temper. Quote
mordorbund Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 2:51 PM, Vort said: Violence at a football game is utterly unacceptable. SilentOne and Vort 1 1 Quote
Traveler Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 8:34 PM, MormonGator said: For his own sake, he needs to learn how to control himself. It never ends well for people who can't control their temper. I would feel better had you said: It never ends well for people who will not control their temper. The word "can't" seem to imply that it really is not their fault. I was taught by parents that thinking "can't" is a more dangerous door to sin than willing a incorrect response. The Traveler Quote
LadyGunnar Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 12:51 PM, Vort said: Violence at a football game is utterly unacceptable. I thought the game was about violence. Tackles and hits? It's all about it. People cheer when they can hear a good hit. Would anyone really watch if it was all flag football? Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LadyGunnar said: I thought the game was about violence. Tackles and hits? It's all about it. People cheer when they can hear a good hit. Would anyone really watch if it was all flag football? He was being sarcastic. Football does sell violence, but it's controlled violence. There is a huge difference between saying "Oh boy, that's a great hit, he knocked the quarterback down." And saying "Dude knocked the quarterback down and he's being taken off on a stretcher. He might be paralyzed! . Yay my team!." I take Tae Kwan Do. ( @mirkwood can back me up on this, he's seen pictures of me in full sparring gear that my wife took. I think he's also seen videos of me breaking boards). There are few things better than winning a sparring match. However, 99% of TKD practitioners take caution not to really hurt your opponent. So even in full contact sports, there is a line you don't cross. Edited November 18, 2019 by MormonGator Quote
mordorbund Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I take Tae Kwan Do. ( @mirkwood can back me up on this, he's seen pictures of me in full sparring gear that my wife took. I think he's also seen videos of me breaking boards). Vort, mirkwood and NeedleinA 3 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, mordorbund said: My favorite board breaking quote comes from the Karate Kid. "So, can you break a board?" "I don't know, I've never been attacked by a tree." Edited November 18, 2019 by MormonGator Quote
omegaseamaster75 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/15/2019 at 7:27 PM, Godless said: Yep. Rudolph attempted to remove Garrett's helmet first, then kicked him in the groin. Garrett's actions were absolutely inexcusable, but Rudolph wasn't innocent in this fiasco. Disagree. As I said, Garrett's actions were inexcusable, but he didn't initiate the altercation, and he seemed genuinely remorseful afterward. You rarely see that from players after a fight or dirty play. Ndamukong Suh and Vontaze Burfict come to mind, and the latter's career may finally be over. Does it really matter who started it? You can't go from a scuffle to a full blown assault and not expect severe consequences. While I think that Garrett has recognized that he did something wrong I don't think he believes that his actions were criminal. I do think that they were. If I were Rudolph I would file criminal charges. Quote
mirkwood Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 We have long tolerated assaults on the sports fields. I wonder what a court/judge/jury would do with one that went to trial. mordorbund 1 Quote
LadyGunnar Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, omegaseamaster75 said: Does it really matter who started it? You can't go from a scuffle to a full blown assault and not expect severe consequences. While I think that Garrett has recognized that he did something wrong I don't think he believes that his actions were criminal. I do think that they were. If I were Rudolph I would file criminal charges. Rudolph started it. I don't see how he can file charges when he started and continued it. He could have walked away and chose not too. He is to blame as well. lonetree 1 Quote
Vort Posted November 18, 2019 Report Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, LadyGunnar said: Rudolph started it. I don't believe it. Talk about blaming the victim! Will the vicious attacks on this poor guy never stop? Quote
Fether Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Vort said: I don't believe it. Talk about blaming the victim! Will the vicious attacks on this poor guy never stop? You know those jokes/puns that are just so obvious that even your dad wouldn’t even use? Edited November 19, 2019 by Fether Quote
Vort Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 51 minutes ago, Fether said: You know those jokes/puns that are just so obvious that even your dad wouldn’t even use? When there's low-hanging fruit to be had, I'm happy to stoop to pick it up off the ground when necessary. Midwest LDS and Fether 2 Quote
Still_Small_Voice Posted December 11, 2019 Author Report Posted December 11, 2019 From what I read Myles Garrett was suspended the rest of the 2019 season which will cost him a little over $1,100,000 because he is not playing. In addition to this Myles was fined $45,623 by the football league. Read more at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/11/21/myles-garrett-appeal-mason-rudolph/ Quote
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