October 2024 Conference Discussion Thread

[Carborendum]

57 minutes ago, laronius said:

Don't really hear about these too much anymore. There's the occasional talk but not like you use to hear, not with the same seeming urgency. While what previous prophets have said is still valid we generally view the words of current prophets as taking priority. If we suddenly do get another push in this area hopefully people pay attention. Covid was a good reminder but we tend to have very short term memories.

They stopped during the Hinckley era.  The programs are still in place. And it is brought up in wards and stakes.  But they don't talk about it in General Conference anymore.

[mikbone]

1 hour ago, Carborendum said:

They stopped during the Hinckley era.  The programs are still in place. And it is brought up in wards and stakes.  But they don't talk about it in General Conference anymore.

From 2014 President Monson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/are-we-prepared?lang=eng

My favorite quote:

“We urge all Latter-day Saints to be prudent in their planning, to be conservative in their living, and to avoid excessive or unnecessary debt. Many more people could ride out the storm-tossed waves in their economic lives if they had a supply of food and clothing and were debt-free. Today we find that many have followed this counsel in reverse: they have a supply of debt and are food-free.“

 

I predict that it will be brought up during this conference.

Edited October 3, 2024 by mikbone

[Carborendum]

41 minutes ago, mikbone said:

From 2014 President Monson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/are-we-prepared?lang=eng

My favorite quote:

“We urge all Latter-day Saints to be prudent in their planning, to be conservative in their living, and to avoid excessive or unnecessary debt. Many more people could ride out the storm-tossed waves in their economic lives if they had a supply of food and clothing and were debt-free. Today we find that many have followed this counsel in reverse: they have a supply of debt and are food-free.“

 

I predict that it will be brought up during this conference.

I said General Conference.  And besides, this was not about emergency preparedness.  It was about provident living.  The line that I'm drawing is that there are the common ups and downs we'll always see in our lives.  That's something we all ought to have preparations for (like savings and some food in the pantry during a hurricaine).  But the year's supply thing hasn't really come up since Hinckley.

And, sure, someone may "mention" it or say a sentence or two referencing it.  But there were times when we didn't simply "mention" food storage.  There were times where the entire speech was either about food storage and emergency preparedness or at least pointing to it in big bold letters because a world-wide or nation-wide calamity was about to bite us in the butt.

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

I would like to see the Salt Lake Dedication prayer added to the Doctrine and Covenants.

https://www.thechurchnews.com/1950/1/1/23264480/salt-lake-temple-o-lord-we-regard-with-intense-and-indescribable-feelings-the-completion-of-this-sac/

[Carborendum]

Is anyone aware of anything that Pres Nelson has announced/published/distributed in the past week or so?  I've heard there was some big heads up regarding the focus of the upcoming conference...???

[mikbone]

1 hour ago, Carborendum said:

Is anyone aware of anything that Pres Nelson has announced/published/distributed in the past week or so?  I've heard there was some big heads up regarding the focus of the upcoming conference...???

Nope.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see something significant.  His time is short.  And I feel like he has been holding back (pretty sure we are not ready as a group ).  

Either way, we will be happy to listen.  

 

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

1 hour ago, mikbone said:

Nope.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see something significant.  His time is short.  And I feel like he has been holding back (pretty sure we are not ready as a group ).  

Either way, we will be happy to listen.  

 

I could see them adding new sections to the D&C and making the Family, The Living Christ and The Restoration Proclamations official declarations 3,4,and 5.

[laronius]

2 hours ago, mikbone said:

Nope.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see something significant.  His time is short.  And I feel like he has been holding back (pretty sure we are not ready as a group ).  

Either way, we will be happy to listen.  

 

If we are not there yet we soon will be when the Lord starts taking a "ready or not, here it comes" approach. Gone are the days when the Church can move only as fast as the last wagon.

[laronius]

With the shortening of the endowment sessions I would imagine there will be a renewed push to do more temple ordinances.

[NeuroTypical]

Holland: Dude, we're not just at conference, we ARE conference.  Get off your phone.

Hales: You're checking out that meme I sent, aren't you.

Ballard: I'm checking out thirdhour to see what they're saying about us.

[SilentOne]

More places I like for temples:

Abuja, Nigeria; Malawi; Baja California Sur, Mexico; Hobart, Tasmania; Mobile (AL), Biloxi (MS) or Pensacola (FL); Richfield, Price, and Roosevelt, Utah; Green Bay or Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Little Rock, Arkansas; Kampala, Uganda; another small island nation - Trinidad? Micronesia?

Edited October 6, 2024 by SilentOne
Green Bay and Milwaukee are in Wisconsin, not Mississippi. Not sure how I messed that up.

[SilentOne]

I get the impression that repentance might possibly be a worthwhile thing to consider.

[SilentOne]

 

[mikbone]

https://apnews.com/article/4b7d1b3fca00d341ba988d3390cfc3d5

Associated Press’ take on General Conference.

[Vort]

The AP will call a man "she" if the man requests it, but insists on calling the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints "the Mormon Church" despite explicit requests to the contrary.

[Ironhold]

7 hours ago, Vort said:

The AP will call a man "she" if the man requests it, but insists on calling the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints "the Mormon Church" despite explicit requests to the contrary.

The AP's own Style Guide *demands* that the church's full name be used. So unless they've removed this requirement, the AP's own people insist on violating their rules. 

And yes, the AP doesn't exactly send its best and brightest to cover us. 

[Carborendum]

In their defense, I think they do what they can to shorten the Headlines of any article.  It's kind of a necessity.

The fact that they used the full name of the Church in the first paragraph shows that they're trying.

[NeuroTypical]

To be fair, the article writers are not the same people as the evil depressed chatbot they keep in the basement who comes up with the headlines.  The headline writers have been a problem for at least 3 decades, probably longer. 

I can't find the clip, but the '90's show The Critic had a bit where the editor of the New York Times was teaching a new reporter that every single article, no matter what it was actually about, had to have the words "Headless" "Drugs" "Mayor" and "Sewer" in it.  Something like this: 

"You're writing a bit about the new fashion lineup?  The headline should read 'Body of headless mayor found in sewer covered in drugs!' "

 

[Ironhold]

1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said:

To be fair, the article writers are not the same people as the evil depressed chatbot they keep in the basement who comes up with the headlines.  The headline writers have been a problem for at least 3 decades, probably longer. 

I can't find the clip, but the '90's show The Critic had a bit where the editor of the New York Times was teaching a new reporter that every single article, no matter what it was actually about, had to have the words "Headless" "Drugs" "Mayor" and "Sewer" in it.  Something like this: 

"You're writing a bit about the new fashion lineup?  The headline should read 'Body of headless mayor found in sewer covered in drugs!' "

 

https://apnews.com/jarvis-in-a-mazda-takes-pole-in-star-studded-rolex-24-field-6eca51364f83411faa307688bcdcfd65

"Jarvis In A Mazda Takes Pole In Star-Studded Rolex Field". 

This is an actual AP article from 2019, and the article is every bit as incoherent as the title. 

I often refer back to it when I need to teach younger individuals the importance of clear writing and proper article organization. 

For those wondering, the article is about the world of motor sports. A rookie driver named Oliver Jarvis won the "pole" position in the upcoming Rolex 24 race by putting in a record-setting performance in the time trials ahead of the event, meaning that his car would be very first in the line-up of cars when the race began and so he would have a critical advantage. Making his accomplishment even *more* spectacular is the fact that he was competing against a number of veteran drivers who were handily expected to win *and* he was driving a make of vehicle that is not a common choice for drivers in this event. 

[ZealoulyStriving]

 A House of the Lord for Comodoro-Rividavia, Argentina 

[NeuroTypical]

On 10/1/2024 at 8:54 AM, NeuroTypical said:

On 9/30/2024 at 8:08 PM, mikbone said:

Temples - likely 20-25 announced

Ooo gutsy!   The last 4 GC's saw 15, 19, 15, 18 announcements.  Fingers crossed!

Whelp, 17 ain't bad.  7 in the US, only 1 in Utah.  Pretty amazing.

Juchitan de Zaragoza Mexico
Santa Ana El Salvador
Medellin Columbia
Santiago Dominican Republic
Puerto Montt Chile
Dublin Ireland
Milan Italy
Abuja Nigeria
Kampala Uganda
Maputo Mozambique

Coeur D'alene Idaho
Queen Creek Arizona
El Paso Texas
Huntsville Alabama
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Summit New Jersey
Price Utah

[Carborendum]

11 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

Whelp, 17 ain't bad.  7 in the US, only 1 in Utah.  Pretty amazing.

Juchitan de Zaragoza Mexico
Santa Ana El Salvador
Medellin Columbia
Santiago Dominican Republic
Puerto Montt Chile
Dublin Ireland
Milan Italy
Abuja Nigeria
Kampala Uganda
Maputo Mozambique

Coeur D'alene Idaho
Queen Creek Arizona
El Paso Texas
Huntsville Alabama
Milwaukee Wisconsin
Summit New Jersey
Price Utah

We are now officially at a number where Pres. Nelson has announced over 50% of all temples (active, constructed, or announced).

[NeuroTypical]

The darn-near logarithmic growth continues: 

At this rate, every square mile of the Earth's land-mass will have a fully functional temple on it, in a few hundred years.  Maybe a couple thousand.  I'm bad at math.

[SilentOne]

The rate of temple growth in Nigeria is impressive: one operational, four in progress, and Abuja announced today.

The first temples in Uganda, Ireland, Wisconsin, and New Jersey were announced today.

Edited October 7, 2024 by SilentOne

[Still_Small_Voice]

I really liked the message Brad Wilcox gave in his talk.  He inspires me to want to try to be a better saint following Christ.  When the conference is released, I will review it again.