Colirio
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9 hours ago, mrmarket said:
What is going on around me is some guy polling who is wearing white shirts and ties in the home for sacrament. Sounds like virtue signaling to me along the same lines nibley speaks of.
Yes. A person who dresses in their best clothing to administer and partake of the sacrament couldn’t possibly be trying to show the Lord their reverence for His great sacrifice for them.
Nope. It’s all virtue signaling. In the privacy of his home. Where nobody except his family is gathered.
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Sorta reminds me of someone who gets upset about what others wear when partaking of the sacrament in the privacy of their own home and then judgmentally declares them to be pharisaical without being able to look at the intentions of their heart.
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1 minute ago, anatess2 said:
Oh, and my son is in the Manila MTC. He's supposed to leave for his mission area next week but Manila is going to be on lockdown by Sunday so, unless they leave now, he'll be in the Manila MTC for a month.
Due to government complications with visas, I was in the Provo MTC for 13 weeks. Granted, it was years ago. But I can definitely empathize with his concerns. -
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49 minutes ago, pam said:
You can't tell me that our leaders were not inspired when they brought about the 2 hour meetings and counseled us to study more at home and with our families.
Putting the “home centered, church supported” to the test!
For me, it really started with the urging from our leaders to keep the sabbath day holy several years ago. That seemed to be a preparatory step for individuals and families to really focus on Christ centered worship in our homes and away from standard church services. The Come Follow Me program was the next step.
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2 hours ago, Midwest LDS said:
I'm glad we can still partake of the Sacrament at home since I hold the priesthood but this makes me sad. I look forward to church every week https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/gatherings-worldwide-temporarily-suspended
Just to reiterate for those who might not know, partaking of the sacrament at home must have approval from the Bishop as he holds the keys of the sacrament administration. From the Handbook:18.9.1
Approval to Administer the SacramentThe bishop holds the priesthood keys for administering the sacrament in the ward. All who participate in preparing, blessing, and passing the sacrament must receive approval from him or someone under his direction.
If members of his ward are unable to partake of the sacrament because they are confined to a home, care center, or hospital, the bishop may authorize priesthood holders to administer the sacrament to them. He may authorize this even if they are temporarily outside his ward boundaries. However, he may not authorize the sacrament to be given to members outside his ward boundaries in other circumstances.- Midwest LDS and Just_A_Guy
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2 hours ago, Fether said:
If you get sick, overnight ship me a used water bottle so I can just get it over with.
If you purchase bottled water in Korea, it’s most likely already used..... -
1 hour ago, Scott said:
The article says that it wan an impromptu protest. I assume that means it wasn't approved.
Ah yes...I have witnessed several bus loads of “impromptu” protesters who show up coincidentally right as the news media does.
They generally all (media and protester) vacate the area about 15 minutes afterwards.
(Disclaimer: I didn’t read the article and I likewise DO believe there are legitimate, impromptu protests. On occasion. On RARE occasion. Rarely, on rare occasions.)
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1 minute ago, Just_A_Guy said:
They thought they had the camel’s nose well and truly into the tent.
This pretty much sums up the entire political and moral landscape of the last few years. (Decades?)
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Just now, estradling75 said:
It is the OP that is having the problem with $5 a month... Not the other posters... The other poster are pointing out quiet correctly that odds are $5 a month is not worth the fight to be "proven right"
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1 minute ago, NeuroTypical said:
Q2: Does your life matter more than mine or my families or these peoples?”
That's the one he did not explicitly answer. He only implicitly answered.
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15 hours ago, rustyoz said:
So my wife has her adult son living with us, eating food, using water, using electricity, using gas, using the washing machine etc etc etc. For this he pays $50 per week. My wife then puts $5 into the bank to cover tithing on the $50 paid by her son. I cant seem to help her understand that this is not an increase in our income, it is simply her son paying for living expenses that we have already spent on food, water, gas, electricity etc etc etc. After all, I would like to see an adult pay less than $50 for everything he uses. Any idea on how to explain it. I do have a finance/accounting background but for some reason she still argues the point.
I believe you are looking at this in a different way than your wife.
You seem to look at this from this accounting standpoint:
You spend $200 (?) a month for goods and receive only $50 a month for those goods. That is a negative balance of $150, so why would you pay tithing on a negative balance?
Your wife seems to see it in an overall budgetary way:
She has automatically written off the expense of $200 for the further raising of her child just as all other expenses she expects to pay. She is willing to pay ALL of his expenses because she loves him. Period. The extra $50 she receives from him is an increase to your overall budget in her view because she views his expenses as any other bill that simply has to be paid.
I’m not saying who is right or wrong, but I do tend to lean towards your wife’s way of thinking. I believe she views it this way out of great love.
As for those who are saying the amount is only $5, the amount is irrelevant to the conversation. The widow’s mite was a tiny amount, but was worth more than the buckets of money being poured into the coffers in a spiritual sense. In this case, the conversation is a question of obedience, not financial convenience.
Edit: Just to be clear, I understand you are mentioning the $5 as an amount not worth causing contention. In such, you are encouraging him to be a peacemaker, which is great. But this is clearly an issue for them or else he wouldn’t have posted the question.
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11 hours ago, Traveler said:
I stand by this concept. And honestly I do not understand a Latter-day Saint that would argue otherwise. This includes @Colirio and @estradling75 .
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3 hours ago, mirkwood said:
There is more disrespect, lack of decorum and hostility then ever before.
Very true.
To be fair, though, what did we all expect it to be like in the last days before Christ’s second coming?
I believe it will get much worse.
That being said, the restoration itself is getting more and more exciting, isn’t it?
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3 hours ago, MormonGator said:
It's fascinating to me (and a little depressing) that Mitt Romney gets more hate from LDS, even though he agrees with us 75% of the time politically, than Harry Reid. Who agrees with us 0% of the time.
Everyone knew that Harry Reid would choose a particular side on most issues. We already know that a venomous serpent will bite and therefore we don’t put any confidence in it not biting.
Mitt Romney makes a pretense of being on a team and then sides with the other. Justified or not, this comes across as disloyalty at a time when the nation is deeply divided on foundational principles.
Wanna know who is hated worse than the enemy? A traitor.
The Democrats made their impeachment decisions in order to uphold their ideology. I disagree with their ideology and believe them a dangerous enemy to liberty.
But I believe Romney made his decision to serve himself and his own political interests. He might state differently, but I simply don’t believe or trust him. I bear no ill will towards him, but he needs to be voted out if he is going to place his own political interests above that of the nation; especially during times when a small number of votes can sway the outcomes.
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1 hour ago, carlimac said:
Really! Watch this!
You know, for whatever reason, I decided to watch this piece tonight after you recommended it.
Glad I did!! Thanks for recommending!
Gave me a much greater understanding of the reasoning behind this particular impeachment process. It also gives a great insight into how deep the corruption really goes.
It also solidifies what I thought about Mitt Romney..... Not. A. Fan.
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@Grunt, one of the best talks was from Dallin H. Oaks that really helped me to understand. You might have already read/listened to it, but it was what helped me:
EDIT: Just thought I should add part of his talk here:
”I come now to the subject of priesthood authority. I begin with the three principles just discussed: (1) priesthood is the power of God delegated to man to act for the salvation of the human family, (2) priesthood authority is governed by priesthood holders who hold priesthood keys, and (3) since the scriptures state that “all other authorities [and] offices in the church are appendages to this [Melchizedek] priesthood” (D&C 107:5), all that is done under the direction of those priesthood keys is done with priesthood authority.
How does this apply to women? In an address to the Relief Society, President Joseph Fielding Smith, then President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, said this: “While the sisters have not been given the Priesthood, it has not been conferred upon them, that does not mean that the Lord has not given unto them authority. … A person may have authority given to him, or a sister to her, to do certain things in the Church that are binding and absolutely necessary for our salvation, such as the work that our sisters do in the House of the Lord. They have authority given unto them to do some great and wonderful things, sacred unto the Lord, and binding just as thoroughly as are the blessings that are given by the men who hold the Priesthood.”7
In that notable address, President Smith said again and again that women have been given authority. To the women he said, “You can speak with authority, because the Lord has placed authority upon you.” He also said that the Relief Society “[has] been given power and authority to do a great many things. The work which they do is done by divine authority.” And, of course, the Church work done by women or men, whether in the temple or in the wards or branches, is done under the direction of those who hold priesthood keys. Thus, speaking of the Relief Society, President Smith explained, “[The Lord] has given to them this great organization where they have authority to serve under the directions of the bishops of the wards … , looking after the interest of our people both spiritually and temporally.”8
Thus, it is truly said that Relief Society is not just a class for women but something they belong to—a divinely established appendage to the priesthood.9
We are not accustomed to speaking of women having the authority of the priesthood in their Church callings, but what other authority can it be? When a woman—young or old—is set apart to preach the gospel as a full-time missionary, she is given priesthood authority to perform a priesthood function. The same is true when a woman is set apart to function as an officer or teacher in a Church organization under the direction of one who holds the keys of the priesthood. Whoever functions in an office or calling received from one who holds priesthood keys exercises priesthood authority in performing her or his assigned duties.”
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President Trump was acquitted by the senate.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-acquits-president-trump-impeachment-vote
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C’mon guys. That’s not fair.
They need just a little more time to decide who they want to win...
...and with the graveyards closing at sundown, most of their constituents didn’t have a chance to vote.
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14 hours ago, Maureen said:
Does anyone have any suggestions for animated and non-animated monster movies to try?
M.
My son really liked Monster House. Admittedly, it is kinda creepy in some parts and maybe too old for her.
Another is A Corpse Bride. This one is on the same level as A Nightmare Before Christmas.
Maybe not a “monster movie” per say, but Disney’s Princess and the Frog has monster-esque people. Seems to be another favorite of fans of that genre.
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On 1/31/2020 at 5:35 PM, estradling75 said:
If I were to guess.... To keep someone from trying to legalese their way around a bishop or other church leader
Because some member(s) would attempt to second guess the decisions made by the bishop(ric) because they “feel” that some other decision should have been made?
I just can’t imagine a scenario where that would EVER happen.... 🤭 -
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The only thing I recall that we are told of Lehi and Sariah’s age was on the ship sailing to the promised land. The record states that they were stricken with years (1 Nephi 18:17) and that they had grey hairs (1 Nephi 18:18). They also had “young” children.
The record states that they had wandered in the wilderness for 8 years (1 Nephi 17:4) prior to their start of the ship building process and gathering of provisions for the ship. We are not given information as to how long the building and gathering processes took.
Anything else would really be our own presumptions.
In terms of the Book of Mormon videos, are we really going to keep having discussions of how the book was better? 🤓
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10 hours ago, carlimac said:
Yes, I agree. Whole articles have been written about this phenomenon. It's really unnerving. And honestly, I think maybe we do ourselves a disservice by asking God to take control of situations like this. Humans ( me more than my daughter) need to just accept what is and try not to interject some false spiritual impression into the mix. If he doesn't like her, he doesn't like her, no matter how perfect they look together "on paper."
Shortly after my mission, I dated a young lady who was pretty amazing. When I prayed, I felt that she would be a great eternal spouse for me. This was exciting!
However, I then felt to pray further and ask if I would be a great eternal spouse for her. The answer was, “No.” I would not have been the person she would need.
This was a turning point for me in my spiritual progression in realizing that sometimes I wasn’t asking the right questions.
I have since found that there is often further insight to be gained in most anything God reveals. Just like Lehi’s dream, it was actually Nephi’s further questioning that gave us the insights we have come to rely on.
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