Biden Is About To Be Dumped by Democrats

[Carborendum]

I never would have thought mainstream media was actually doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWiIwL3yV8

This was apparently about a week ago.  NBC reported accurately about the whistleblowers calling out Joe Biden's claims that he was never involved in Hunter's business dealings.  And they didn't even try to white wash it.

The mainstream media is about to dump him.  They're looking to either Kennedy or Newsom.

[NeuroTypical]

Perhaps now they can push race issues better. Hard to talk reparations when Biden would have to break out his own checkbook but won't talk about it.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-slavery-lawmakers/

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In addition, President Joe Biden and every living former U.S. president – except Donald Trump – are direct descendants of slaveholders: Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and – through his white mother’s side – Barack Obama. Trump’s ancestors came to America after slavery was abolished.

The White House had no comment on the efforts by the activist groups or on Biden’s ancestral ties to slavery. The president’s great-great-great-grandfather enslaved a 14-year-old boy in 1850, census records show.

 

[Guest Godless]

Ooooooooooooor.....

 

Biden did shady stuff and the media is holding him accountable for it, which is kind of their job. It's a weird indictment of our current political atmosphere when the media holds a politician accountable for possible wrongdoing and people spin it as some kind of coup.

[Vort]

2 hours ago, Godless said:

It's a weird indictment of our current political atmosphere when the media holds a politician accountable for possible wrongdoing and people spin it as some kind of coup.

It's purely an indictment of the deeply corrupt media. When they actually do their job, it's remarkable.

And it's also for a reason they want, not because they want to spread the truth. Biden won't be reelected. The man is clearly senile. The media finally understands this, that even after all their help, the candidate is helpless. So they want another candidate.

[Ironhold]

5 hours ago, Vort said:

It's purely an indictment of the deeply corrupt media. When they actually do their job, it's remarkable.

And it's also for a reason they want, not because they want to spread the truth. Biden won't be reelected. The man is clearly senile. The media finally understands this, that even after all their help, the candidate is helpless. So they want another candidate.

Yeah, it's getting far too hard to deny that there's something wrong with Biden. 

The issue is that Kamala Harris is likewise unfit for office, and so if anything happens to Biden she would be next in line. That's the only thing preventing him from being removed right now. 

[mirkwood]

It does seem like they are maneuvering to replace him as a candidate.

[Still_Small_Voice]

 I have been praying Joe Biden will be removed from office almost daily recently.  He is a terrible leader and the worst President of my lifetime in my opinion.  Hopefully the next person put into the office of President will do a much better job.

[laronius]

They have to walk the fine line of making sure he loses the primary without taking the party down with him. So they can't be overly critical of him but they do need to damage his reputation among Democrats. But how much is enough without being too much? It will be interesting to see.

[Guest Godless]

1 hour ago, laronius said:

They have to walk the fine line of making sure he loses the primary without taking the party down with him.

This part can't be glossed over. Primarying a sitting president is unprecedented, and there's no way to do it without damaging the party. If it's true that Dems and their allies in the media are maneuvering to replace him (needless to say, I'm skeptical), then it's because the Hunter Biden stuff really is THAT bad, not because Biden no speak good. Whatever his faults, Biden has proven that he can handily beat Trump, who currently appears to be the most likely GOP candidate. Dems aren't going to abandon their Trumpbuster without strong legal cause. Doing so would put their claim on the White House at risk and wreck the party's credibility.

[Carborendum]

On 7/1/2023 at 11:29 PM, Godless said:

Biden did shady stuff and the media is holding him accountable for it, which is kind of their job. It's a weird indictment of our current political atmosphere when the media holds a politician accountable for possible wrongdoing and people spin it as some kind of coup.

No, it is a weird indictment of our media that when they spend three years doing the deny, minimize, ignore, & lie routine and then all-of-a-sudden admit it really was THAT bad.

And it is a weird indictment of liberal masses who followed right along and continue to minimize, doubt, & spin when even the liberal media is finally beginning to admit it.

Maybe you simply don't remember the past three years where the media has been tripping all over themselves trying to run interference for Biden?

Edited July 3, 2023 by Carborendum

[Guest Godless]

5 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

No, it is a weird indictment of our media that when they spend three years doing the deny, minimize, ignore, & lie routine and then all-of-a-sudden admit it really was THAT bad.

I won't sit here and make excuses for CNN and MSNBC, but I'm sure you can understand why Dem voters might be skeptical of a story that for a long time was only being reported by the news agencies that pushed election conspiracies and 1/6 apologists.

5 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

And it is a weird indictment of liberal masses who followed right along and continue to minimize, doubt, & spin when even the liberal media is finally beginning to admit it.

Personally, I don't care what happens to Biden. If he gets dumped, then good riddance. All I'm saying is that dumping a sitting president without VERY good cause is terrible party policy, and ignoring allegations of presidential misconduct is a bad look for the party that impeached the previous president twice. Politics is 90% optics. I'm not saying it's right. It's just the world we live in.

5 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

Maybe you simply don't remember the past three years where the media has been tripping all over themselves trying to run interference for Biden?

Like I said, I'm not here to make excuses for the media, or for Biden. But I remember the media slamming him on Afghanistan, gas prices, inflation, student loan forgiveness (first he wasn't doing enough, then he did too much), and COVID management. I think this highlights a key difference between liberal and conservative media outlets. The right operates on outrage. The left operates on facts. And while there certainly is still bias in the reporting from left-leaning outlets, facts tend to burn politicians without prejudice. To quote the right's favorite broken clock, "Facts don't care about your feelings." The liberal media has been much harder on Biden than conservative media ever was on Trump. 

[LDSGator]

9 hours ago, Godless said:

Biden has proven that he can handily beat Trump

The democrats are much more politically savvy then the republicans and are praying for Trump to win. Because like you said, Biden (who is no JFK/Reagan) can sleepwalk into term two.
 

All Trumpers can offer is that the election was “stolen” in 2020.  My fear is that they are too dense to realize that most Americans don’t believe them and even if they did believe them, that was 3-4 years ago and it’s time for a new message. 
 

@Godless if I were you I’d give serious thought to switching party membership and voting for Trump in the primary. Not kidding. 

[LDSGator]

If the GOP nominates anyone but Trump I’d be very concerned if I was a democrat. 
 

[Guest Godless]

13 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

All Trumpers can offer is that the election was “stolen” in 2020.  My fear is that they are too dense to realize that most Americans don’t believe them and even if they did believe them, that was 3-4 years ago and it’s time for a new message. 
 

The problem for the GOP is that a majority of them probably want "The Big Lie" to go away, but they're not going to win any meaningful races without Trump's base, and a quick way to lose Trump's base is to suggest (as Chris Christie did recently, RIP to his campaign) that Trump really did lose the 2020 election.

13 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

@Godless if I were you I’d give serious thought to switching party membership and voting for Trump in the primary. Not kidding. 

I've recently started getting involved in volunteer work for the local DFL office, so that might not be prudent. 😅

[LDSGator]

10 minutes ago, Godless said:

 

I've recently started getting involved in volunteer work for the local DFL office, so that might not be prudent. 😅

Given that a Trump nomination in 2024 assures your side of four more years, you would think they’d be thrilled. 

[Vort]

39 minutes ago, Godless said:

The right operates on outrage. The left operates on facts.

🤣

What gender are you today?

[Vort]

43 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

The democrats are much more politically savvy then the republicans and are praying for Trump to win. Because like you said, Biden (who is no JFK/Reagan) can sleepwalk into term two.
 

All Trumpers can offer is that the election was “stolen” in 2020.  My fear is that they are too dense to realize that most Americans don’t believe them and even if they did believe them, that was 3-4 years ago and it’s time for a new message. 
 

@Godless if I were you I’d give serious thought to switching party membership and voting for Trump in the primary. Not kidding. 

If people compare their situations under Trump vs. Biden, Trump will win. I don't know why lefties think Biden is somehow attractive. He is not. He is nearing Hillary-level repulsiveness. If it's a matter of which guy we hate less, well, a lot of people (minority, but a lot) love Trump and see him as some sort of savior. And many others who haven't been brainwashed by the overwhelmingly leftist media view Trump, as I do, as a difficult and often unpleasant character who nevertheless was an effective head of state.

If Trump does get nominated, I hope the Dems and other lefties keep up their smug attitude of "Trump can't win". It'll be 2016 all over again.

Edited July 3, 2023 by Vort
One day, I shall learn to type.

[LDSGator]

1 minute ago, Vort said:

not. He is nearing Hillary-level repulsiveness.

Yes, that’s all true. And because of that, he should be very easy to beat. This will just show what a weak candidate Trump is when he loses again. 
 

The best definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. Adlai Stevenson can tell you that firsthand! Lol. 

[Vort]

13 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

The best definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results.

Which is why I could never faithfully practice the piano. Musicians are insane.

[LDSGator]

3 minutes ago, Vort said:

Which is why I could never faithfully practice the piano. Musicians are insane.

As a joke one time I told my TKD instructor that practicing “the same form” again and again was insane. Without missing a beat he said “don’t worry, you are making new mistakes each time.” 
 

Ouch. 

[scottyg]

1 hour ago, Godless said:

The right operates on outrage. The left operates on facts.

This is easily the most bizarrely false and backwards statement I have heard in recent memory. Simply not true, period.

[LDSGator]

17 minutes ago, scottyg said:

This is easily the most bizarrely false and backwards statement I have heard in recent memory. Simply not true, period.

Growing up, naively I thought the GOP were the party of “harsh truth” and the democrats were the party of “comforting lies.” 

1 Corinthians 13:11 comes to mind. Now as an adult, I realize how stupid I was. Both parties only care about power and winning. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by LDSGator

[pam]

On 7/1/2023 at 8:54 PM, Carborendum said:

I never would have thought mainstream media was actually doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWiIwL3yV8

This was apparently about a week ago.  NBC reported accurately about the whistleblowers calling out Joe Biden's claims that he was never involved in Hunter's business dealings.  And they didn't even try to white wash it.

The mainstream media is about to dump him.  They're looking to either Kennedy or Newsom.

Please please please not Newsom.

[Guest Godless]

2 hours ago, Vort said:

🤣

What gender are you today?

You jest, but you're kind of proving my point. The GOP has their voters so enthralled in gender discourse and Hunter Biden that a lot of conservatives barely even noticed when the House majority tried using the debt ceiling stalemate to slash funding for Social Security, Medicare, and even the VA, kind of like the way they used Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head to try to distract you from a successful vaccine rollout, even though neither of those things had Biden's fingerprints anywhere on them.

[Vort]

1 hour ago, Godless said:

You jest, but you're kind of proving my point.

Right, because gender dynamics are scientific, and when campus kids argue about the virtue of pretending a man is really a woman and that parading transvestites in front of our kindergarteners is a good thing, that's fact-based.