Rob Osborn Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Of all the things that threaten society feminism is by far perhaps the greatest threat to our society. Why? Because it removes the role of the father from the home and when that role is dismissed the family is left to wander down strange paths and become lost. The Patriarchal order of the priesthood is an eternal law and eternal principle. We may not know every exact detail but we do know that God the Father is the one in charge and under him the Son is the head and president of the gospel. This patriarchal order is the directive power and authority of how the heavens work as patterned by the Lord God himself. When Christ was on the earth he set up apostles to govern his church. This too is part of the patriarchal order of the priesthood. This power is just a directional power and does in no way make us more powerful than women nor more important. Feminists are against this patriarchal order believing it makes, or rather, allows, men to be in control of women. This is a grand falsehood conceived and perpetuated by the devil himself. Successful homes are homes where the patriarchal order is kept and the husband/father is the presiding head of his home just as Jesus is the father and presiding head of his church. This is wisdom by God himself who teaches us this eternal pattern and one of the reasons why the physical makeup of mans body and spirit are different than a womans. Whereas God the Father is the lawgiver and law enforcer of the heavens so too is the father the lawgiver and law enforcer in the home. Why? Paramount is his ability to protect and provide in all things temporally and spiritually. As the feminist movement gathers more steam we see an influx of lifestyle into the LGBT world, gender confusion, broken and single homes and deadbeat or absent fathers. Does Satan have a strategy to destroy Gods kingdom? Yes, and one of his main strategies is to remove the patriarchal order from the home. By removing the fathers role Satan gains the power to lead that family more easily down into hell. This is a call to all for men to stand up, do your duty, and lead and guide your family in the home into safety. Edited June 22, 2017 by Rob Osborn Jojo Bags, eddified and Fether 3 Quote
Fether Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 I always saw woman's desire to to hold a priesthood office as being prideful. The idea they have of their desire being centered upon equality is just proof that they see priesthood as a position of personal power and not a divine duty held specifically for a certain group of people. Feminism was great when it was about equality! But it isn't anymore. A point Milo yiannopoulos (A very rowdy, homosexual conservative speaker) makes a LOT is that you ask every woman in the USA f they believe in equality of sexes, most will undoubtly say yes without hesitation. If you ask the same population if they consider the,selves feminist, they most would say no. This is because they now mean two different things. So I agree, feminism is bad, it's a bunch of people that no longer have a cause to fight for and are now looking for one using made up statistics or statistics that don't take into account major factors. It is a move,net of hate Backroads, unixknight, NightSG and 1 other 4 Quote
prisonchaplain Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 There is a silver lining though--they agree with us that pornography is bad. Different reasons, but we can join hands on that issue. ABCDario, Vort, Fether and 2 others 4 1 Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: There is a silver lining though--they agree with us that pornography is bad. Different reasons, but we can join hands on that issue. Then why do they keep posing naked by way of "empowerment"? Vort, mwalker, David1c and 4 others 7 Quote
person0 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, The Folk Prophet said: Then why do they keep posing naked by way of "empowerment"? Of course they are allowed to pose naked (especially if they are overweight and ugly) because they are empowered by unabashedly revealing their true physical self to the world! Duh! Besides, pornography isn't bad, its only bad because the men looking at it that will like it for the wrong reasons! If it was just women watching, and only female or trans female actresses then its good! Because, you know, empowerment! (all sarcasm on the off chance someone can't tell) David1c 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) It's interesting to me that we have a bunch of guys talking about how bad feminism is Edited June 22, 2017 by MormonGator Quote
Fether Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, MormonGator said: It's interesting to me that we have a bunch of guys talking about how bad feminism is Because girls are either feminist or don't care cause they aren't affected by it Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, MormonGator said: It's interesting to me that we have a bunch of guys talking about how bad feminism is What difference does that make? eddified 1 Quote
Vort Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, MormonGator said: It's interesting to me that we have a bunch of guys talking about how bad feminism is Proof that men have eyes and brains. Some men, anyway. MBKnabe and wenglund 2 Quote
NeuroTypical Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 Yes, we need less people like Christina Hoff Summers, and fewer books like Who Stole Feminism and The War Against Boys. Nasty feminists! Seriously - did this topic like fall into a time warp from the '90's or something? Sunday21 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 Feminism is like anything else, there are good and bad aspects to it. Waging a battle against "feminism" will be as successful as me trying out for the Miami Dolphins. Quote
MarginOfError Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 I am a feminist. I am a proud and vocal feminist. It is my feminism that enables the ways in which I help men to break down social norms to help them be more open and expressive, to build more community and support with each other. It was feminism that inspired me to push for more social engagements within my Elders Quorum, building greater unity and trust among my brethren. Feminism is a broad category of social pholosophy. Labelling it all as "bad" because you don't like certain strains of the bandwidth says less about feminism and more about the speaker. Sunday21, Bini, MBKnabe and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: I am a feminist. I am a proud and vocal feminist. It is my feminism that enables the ways in which I help men to break down social norms to help them be more open and expressive, to build more community and support with each other. It was feminism that inspired me to push for more social engagements within my Elders Quorum, building greater unity and trust among my brethren. Feminism is a broad category of social pholosophy. Labelling it all as "bad" because you don't like certain strains of the bandwidth says less about feminism and more about the speaker. Amen. I'm a feminist as well, but because I'm not a political liberal I'm somehow deficient in some way in the eyes of most feminists. Quote
MarginOfError Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Amen. I'm a feminist as well, but because I'm not a political liberal I'm somehow deficient in some way in the eyes of most feminists. Oh how cute...you think that's the reason why. Sunday21 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: Oh how cute...you think that's the reason why. lol. Quote
dahlia Posted June 22, 2017 Report Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Fether said: Because girls are either feminist or don't care cause they aren't affected by it Girls? You mean women? And every woman who goes to work, tries to tell a doctor who thinks she's 'imagining' her symptoms, or is told she shouldn't do this or that because she is a 'girl' is affected by feminism. Bini and Sunday21 1 1 Quote
person0 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Feminism by its lexical root supports a concept which is evil. Feminism inherently represents a focus on women rather than equality of women and it is clearly visible in the actions and motives of modern feminists. The only appropriate way to enact the few righteous goals that modern feminism supports would be to abandon the title of feminism completely in taking on the title of equalism. Feminism is to Equalism as Black Lives Matter is to All Lives Matter. Too many people feel they deserve to be compensated because of the wrongdoing and suffering of people from the past, but what would that accomplish? Equality is what we need, not trying to right the wrongs of the past with wrongdoing of the opposite sort. Weren't we all taught at some point that two wrongs don't make a right? Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 My concern with feminismistic (great word, eh?) ideologies is less about what principles of what women should be able to do and be and more about principles of what women should do and be. Just_A_Guy and Vort 2 Quote
Rob Osborn Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 2 hours ago, MarginOfError said: I am a feminist. I am a proud and vocal feminist. It is my feminism that enables the ways in which I help men to break down social norms to help them be more open and expressive, to build more community and support with each other. It was feminism that inspired me to push for more social engagements within my Elders Quorum, building greater unity and trust among my brethren. Feminism is a broad category of social pholosophy. Labelling it all as "bad" because you don't like certain strains of the bandwidth says less about feminism and more about the speaker. Its the cause and end result of feminism that bothers me. In todays world feminism is about breaking or changing the role of genders, especially the role of the father in the home. Feminists, especially those who label themselves as Mormon feminists, do not see how equality of the sexes can work within the patriarchal order. Quote
MarginOfError Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Rob Osborn said: Its the cause and end result of feminism that bothers me. In todays world feminism is about breaking or changing the role of genders, especially the role of the father in the home. Feminists, especially those who label themselves as Mormon feminists, do not see how equality of the sexes can work within the patriarchal order. Heaven forbid father's learn to be nurturing, compassionate, and to lead by building consensus. That might almost sound like D&C 121 Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, MarginOfError said: Heaven forbid father's learn to be nurturing, compassionate, and to lead by building consensus. That might almost sound like D&C 121 D&C 121 strikes me as sufficient. Which makes this potential (and questionable) aspect of feminism useless. Vort and Anddenex 2 Quote
Suzie Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 After reading this thread I feel like Michael J. Fox going back to 1955 in "Back to the Future". Backroads, Maureen and An Investigator 3 Quote
Suzie Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 3 hours ago, MarginOfError said: Heaven forbid father's learn to be nurturing, compassionate, and to lead by building consensus. That might almost sound like D&C 121 You are the kind that "babysit" your own kids, don't you? An Investigator, MarginOfError and Sunday21 3 Quote
Suzie Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 6 hours ago, MormonGator said: Amen. I'm a feminist as well, but because I'm not a political liberal I'm somehow deficient in some way in the eyes of most feminists. Well, no one is perfect. Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Suzie said: Well, no one is perfect. This guy is. Quote
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