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    BeccaKirstyn

    3 Nephi 9 Repetition

    I noticed a pattern of phrases in 3 Nephi 9 that Christ repeated four times in somewhat similar ways and was wondering if anyone has ever come across any conference talks or has any insight about this repetition? Assuming things that are repeated are extremely poignant and of significance among scripture. 3 Nephi 9:5: "...to hide their iniquities and their abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints shall not come any more unto me against them." 3 Nephi 9:8: " ...to hide their wickedness and abominations from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up any more unto me against them." 3 Nephi 9: 9: "...to destroy them from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up unto me any more against them." 3 Nephi 9: 11: "...that their wickedness and abominations might be hid from before my face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints whom I sent among them might not cry unto me from the ground against them."
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    CV75

    3 Nephi 9 Repetition

    As a whole, these verses are part of a slightly larger chiasmus https://chiasmusresources.org/3-nephi-913-22 The rhetorical device serves as a mnemonic device for oral traditions, which includes focusing attention on the central idea, and in written traditions.
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    NeedleinA

    President Nelson vaccinated

    Elder Bednar dropping bombs:
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    NeuroTypical

    President Nelson vaccinated

    https://www.facebook.com/russell.m.nelson/posts/3650727088328034
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    Anddenex

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    Here is the thought Elder Renlund provided that is irritating "thought leaders" and those that have succumbed to these thoughts leaders: The metaphor is a brilliant metaphor relating sickness (virus) to spiritual sickness, and how we should avoid anything in our lives that might threaten the eternal reward of our family. Seems to be a very appropriate analogy in light of scripture. And yet, this section is full of people irritated because -- the guilty take a truth to be hard. My favorite comment is this, "I doubt that this was an inspired comment and hope you’ll reconsider what a damaging impact this sort of stigmatizing and divisive sentiment has to our congregations." First, it's funny that someone thinks they are able to say what is inspired and isn't when it was "personal" revelation to Elder Renlund, which he is sharing. The Lord doesn't work horizontally with revelation or inspiration, so the pride involved in this sentiment is even more sad. Truth only impacts a congregation harmfully if the congregation is prideful and doesn't want to accept truth. It really becomes tiring reading comments from people who want to twist words an apostle or prophet will say to further their justification for their decisions.
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    mirkwood

    President Nelson vaccinated

    I'm still not getting it. As a side note, we are at day 7 of our family's exposure and nobody has symptoms.
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    mirkwood

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    I'm more like J Golden Kimball.
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    My filtered words may have been more panicky than how he portrayed it. He was of a very cheery disposition throughout the whole discourse. Yes. It only serves to underscore my MIL words.
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    Just_A_Guy

    Youth Fireside - Sinking Titanic

    So, a minor correction from your resident Titanic nerd: The crew (with very few exceptions, mostly coming from Captain Smith himself to men he deemed to be of the non-panicking sort), did *not* tell most of the passengers that the ship was actually sinking, because they wanted to avoid a panic. At least as far as the female first- and second-class passengers were concerned: Those who trusted that there was good and sufficient reason underlying the captain’s orders and made it a priority to obey, made it off fine.* *Third-class women were another story because there were no lifeboats in the designated third-class open decks; and men of all classes risked being excluded from the boats depending on which of the senior officers happened to be supervising the loading of any particular boat—Lightoller and Lowe took harsh “no men” rules, even if there were no women around, and had to be persuaded even to admit teenaged boys; the other officers were more willing to admit men once all the women nearby had been loaded into the boats.
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    Just_A_Guy

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    You’re not supposed to talk about good and evil. In certain circles of the Church, there is no right and wrong—only the church’s money, and GAs who aren’t woke enough to use it the way it should be used.
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    estradling75

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    The Lord said he would sift his church... We saw this with the whole Prop 8 and rainbow movements... Now we are seeing it hit the other side of the political scale, with the face-masks and shut down mandates. In the end we will see who is on the Lord's side and who thinks the leaders have fallen because they disagree with them...
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    Just_A_Guy

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    The amusing thing is, that wing of the Church had assumed that since Elder Renlund had a small family, a lawyer wife, and frequently cited to his experience in Africa—that he would be as libertine as they themselves are. And yet, he clearly isn’t. It’s a useful lesson. We all get tempted to assume that this GA or that is “one of us” on any given social, political, or theological controversy; but really, the question is whether we are one of them.
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    Thank you for the summary. Ugh. For a slightly more hopeful outlook, I go to Elder Christofferson: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2020/10/22christofferson But of course, looming over it all, is the 25 year old Proclamation on the Family:
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    Carborendum

    Youth Fireside - Sinking Titanic

    This was the link: http://mywebcast.churchofjesuschrist.org/broadcast But it was a broadcast Zoom meeting. So, it's essentially dormant now. I just took a closer look at the email that announced this. It may have been intended for this local audience only. Since it was a general auxilliary officer, I thought it was at least nationwide. But that may not have been so. When I click on the link now, it says "Ogden West YW/YM instruction." And as I recall, the young woman who gave the closing prayer was announced as being from an Odgen ward. I'll try to repeat all I can remember from the fireside. (I warn that I was not listening as intently as I otherwise would have. I was busy with my calling at the time and only half listening.) ** Announcement: Brother Wilcox will speak at a virtual "For the Strength of Youth" fireside on Sunday, January 17 at 7pm.All Youth and Parents are invited to attend. ** BEGIN SPEECH I believe many of you are thinking that this is probably the worst time to be alive. This is the worst time to be going off to college and start your life as an adult. This is the worst time to be on a mission. I'd argue that this is the best time to be alive. This is the best time to start your life as an adult. This is the best time to go on a mission. It is especially the best time to go on a mission. Why? Because the world is the Titanic and the Church is the lifeboat. The Titanic was supposed to be the best, the strongest, the most luxurious ship ever built. New technology was applied to ensure that this ship was unsinkable. Everyone thought that this was the pinnacle of mankind's achievement (heh-heh). In fact, many boasted, "God, Himself, could not sink this boat." (At this point I - Carb - was drawing a parallel to the Tower of Babel). Does this sound familiar? We have the strongest economy ever. The stock market is higher than it's ever been. Our military is the most powerful on Earth. NOTHING can sink this nation. God, Himself, could not stop this economy. Until the tiniest creature on earth (a virus) stopped the entire world. We all know that the ship hit an iceberg because of lack of care on the part of the Captain. He was too confident in dangerous waters. But what happened afterwards was an even greater tragedy than it needed to be because the passengers themselves were too confident in dangerous waters. After the collision, and after assessments were made, the captain gave the announcement for the passengers to get into the lifeboats because the ship was sinking. The crew ushered passengers as best they could and tried their best to encourage them. And if you only saw the movie, you'd think that the crew was being lazy or didn't do their job. But the research I've done on this story (he held up a stack of papers about 100 pages long) the crew did their job. First hand accounts say that the crew were almost in panic mode. But the passengers were laughing at the idea of getting on the lifeboats when the ship was unsinkable. They thought it was like a fire drill. "Oh, don't worry, it's just a drill" they'd tell one another. But the crew was adamant and did all they could to convince them it was not a drill. Some people got on. Others refused and even MOCKED those who were getting on the lifeboats (Great and Spacious Building, anyone?). That is why lifeboats were going down half-full. Not because of the crew's incompetence, but because the passengers simply didn't take the threat seriously. Then the ship began to tilt. Then there was the chaos that you saw in the movie. This is the best time to be a missionary because there are many passengers out there who are looking for the lifeboat. Nothing can save this world, but God, Himself. We are the crew trying to usher them into the lifeboats. And only something so dire as a pandemic is as clear as the boat tilting. So, go about gathering Israel and ushering them into the lifeboats. That's our job. We're the crew. -- I remember there was more to the conclusion portion. But I honestly can't remember what he said.
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    Backroads

    Why is taco seasoning so bad?

    Some years ago I started mixing my own seasoning and never looked back. You also may not be letting the meat sizzle enough. You want a nice char. You also may not be my ancient neighbor who hails from middle-of-nowhere, Mexico and possess all Mexican cooking wisdom. Word to the wise: If you're in my backyard when her three billion descendants are over dinner, do not make eye contact with anyone over the fence. If they get the slightest inclination you are aware of their presence, a giant paper plate of food will be prepared for you and you will have to eat it. It may be delicious, but it is also a month's worth of food on one plate.
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    I have a family member that has come t the US legally (not immediate family member, extended family) who has not been able to become a citizen for over 5 years now. It would strike me as particularly cruel in a turn of fate if those who come in illegally gain immediate citizenship vs. those who try to go the legal route. On the otherhand, the US could have easier routes for those who wish to immigrate. There are reasons to be fearful of many of those coming from the South of the Border. They are coming from poverty and many are seeking a better life from it. I imagine if there were others of us that had the choice between seeing our children and families starve to death or trying to save them from that hardship, we would choose to try to cross over borders and nations anyway we could find. At the same time there is a vast amount of violence (in Honduras for example) which propagate a massive amount of suffering and death from the savage gangs and daily skirmishes they bring upon the citizens of the nations they reside in. Many are fleeing this violence in order to find a better life in a society they see as more stable. Unfortunately, many of them simply think they can travel and get a better life rather than changing their own families first. This has caused the rise of many of those same gangs found in those nations which cause such violence to be established in the US. In some of the cities in the Southwest and California there are areas where police now do not go as much and the threats are just as real as any of those nations South of the Border. Those immigrants have brought the same gangs and violence with them. Instead of changing, they simply brought it with them. They have brought the problem to us and with every new immigrant of that same mindset, brings us closer to that same anarchy found in their nations which they say they are fleeing. I don't have the solution to this problem. You want to be compassionate to those that truly want to immigrate to the US and want to be a benefit to our society, but at the same time if we do not screen the bad elements out, we eventually could become just like those nations filled with violence that they are trying to escape from. Bringing this full circle..of course, with the route that many are following currently in the US both on the Far Right and the Far Left, it may be that we create our own violence among each other soon enough. If we do not heed the wise counsel of our Prophets and Apostles (and honestly, almost all Americans are not members of the Church and not listen to the leaders of our church...but perhaps it would merely just take the members of our church to be an example first if nothing else) it could be that we devolve into such dissension that violence will continue rising among those who are divided in our nation.
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    Jamie123

    Why is taco seasoning so bad?

    We had tacos last night. We always use the Old El Paso seasoning, which I like, but I don't believe I've ever had tacos at a restaurant so I don't know how much better they are there. Having said that though, about 30 years ago I visited a colleague in Dallas, Texas, and he took me to a proper Tex-Mex restaurant, where we had enchiladas. About a year later, back in the UK, I went out with some friends to a Mexican restaurant, and asked for enchiladas (remembering how much I'd liked the ones in Dallas) but what they gave me was (by comparison) the most miserable excuse for an enchilada imaginable. So I can well imagine "proper" tacos being a quantum leap better that anything I've ever tasted.
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    This is a false and hateful statement. No one here has mocked Nicaraguans, yet the resident self-proclaimed atheist sees fit to lecture us on what he snidely calls "the American Jesus". I have had it with these kinds of lies and the apparent lack of any effort at all to moderate such verbal feces on this, an ostensibly LDS-oriented site.
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    Indeed... For example I am personally willing to help other individuals. But if one of those individuals has a history of threatening violence against people trying to help, well my religion and faith would excuse me from going over. My responsibly to stay alive for my family trumps, rendering temporary aid to a stranger. When we move this up to the macro scale and immigration it still holds. We help those we can. But those that are threats we do not, because it is not safe to do so. We have an obligation to protect those already here... the only way to do that is to vet those incoming. And large numbers make the vetting more difficult . To have this concerned be so toxicly twisted into pure selfishness and mocking and scorning of the poor an needy shows the fundamental dishonesty of the statement. A variation of this dishonesty is to claim that we think ALL immigrants are criminals and dangerous. We are not saying that they ALL are. We are saying that the odds are that small subset of them are, and that subset needs to be dealt with for the protection of all.
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    I do not, and I for one would like to know. However, My feelings are definitely on a macro level, not on the individuals coming in. Here is what I think when I learn about these caravans or any type of illegal entry. - So many entitled Americans think the US is an awful place... yet millions of people all over the world want in. - There are, without a doubt, criminals in that mass looking to get. Drug dealers, mules, human traffickers, rapists, murders, etc. this is why we vet and don’t let everyone who knocks on our door in. It’s not fair to let 9000 people in to the US while putting at risk everyone who is already here side note: One great way to ruin a conversation and prevent dialogue is to insult the views of the other person. Whenever I see someone throwing in ad hominem, I write that person off as “not having anything useful to say”. Whether that is true or not, I much prefer engaging In Conversation, not in verbal attacking (though I am far too familiar with the temptation to attack the person instead of defending the point).
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    A perfect example of why this country is polarizing. One side demands that we treat every issue they think is important with utmost care and concern... Yet when the other side presents something they are concerned about, the response to attack the character of the person expressing the concern and strawmaning their statements and belief.
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    beefche

    Why is taco seasoning so bad?

    If you are using a store bought taco seasoning mix, this could be it (I can't stand that stuff--too salty and taste like preservatives, to me). Make your own and make sure you get quality ingredients. I recommend going to a local International market or Latin market to get your seasonings. I make my own and store it in an airtight container. Whenever I need Mexican seasoning (taco, chili, taco soup, etc), I use this.
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    If only Antifa and BLM would heed the wisdom of the First Presidency.
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    Carborendum

    The Shame of Elder Renlund

    with or without the polish?
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    mordorbund

    Why is taco seasoning so bad?

    “I know, right! It’s so weird. 😉“ -Pace Picante