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  1. The article is a bald-faced, almost hilarious undisguised hypocrisy. 'We don't owe Trump any apology, because we were right. Doesn't matter whether the Mueller report agrees with us. Trump is icky, so we were justified. The problem is that we came off looking bad, and for that we need to take responsibility." Hah, hah. I find it both interesting and scary how, as time goes on and Trump continues to reveal just how Trumpian he is, I find myself more and more in support of him. Truly this is a battle of the lesser of two evils, and truly Trump was the lesser evil compared to Clinton. But compared to the press? Yup. Terrifying. I trust Donald J. Trump more—a very great deal more—than I trust CNN or the New York Times. I don't even like the guy. I find him somewhat repulsive. But he is so vastly much better less slimy and disgusting than the Democrats or the mainstream media that I'm left in his corner by default. Whatever his manifold faults, Trump will not bring down America. I definitely cannot say the same for the Democratic Party and the MSM.
    6 points
  2. People want God in a Box®. God in a Box® is safe, convenient, and almost mess-free. Want an explanation for why things happen? God in a Box® gives you all the "answers" you really need (because, let's face it, you don't really need answers, do you?). Who to turn to when you're discouraged? God in a Box® fills the bill! Someone to pray to without worrying about actually trying to communicate in a conversation. Need a safe, neutral personage to worship so that you don't look like a godless heathen, but that won't inflame your electorate with weird, cult-like associations? God in a Box® is your man! Along with a few other Christians, Latter-day Saints foolishly don't preach God in a Box®. They go with this weird, cult-like god who does bizarre, out-of-the-Box® things like take an interest in your life, actively hear your prayers, and—scandalous!—reveal himself to people. Weirdos. When such people claim that God speaks to them, question their sanity, or at least the reliability of their obviously biased methodology. Mock and make fun, or roll your eyes and demonstrate some strained patience. But whatever you do, never take them seriously. Here be dragons. Listen carefully: We've got a good thing going with God in a Box®. Let's not blow it.
    4 points
  3. You know, the Pew article cited earlier shows a broader trend about how the world views the US: —They love us when we elect Democrats. —They hate us when we elect Republicans. Trump is just the latest manifestation of this trend. Trump’s critics can’t have it both ways. They can’t kvetch about purported international meddling in American elections while also suggesting that our primary responsibility is to elect a president the international community finds acceptable.
    3 points
  4. That may not be what it was called, but that's what it was.
    3 points
  5. Good news! I may get a ministering sister! I called my former bishop’s wife and she feels that this can be arranged! Very happy 😊 Things are getting better!
    2 points
  6. I think those are important, but I think there's an element that's bigger: Self-interest. I have heard diplomacy being described as "the art of letting the other side get your way." Countries make deals mainly based on what's best for them (however they define that) and not on whether the other side are a bunch of good guys.
    2 points
  7. My thoughts at this point are thus, vis a vis the OP: American politics was more or less a boxing match, in the which the GOP mostly played by the rules and the Dems were increasingly punching below the belt, tripping, kicking, biting, pinching, etc. The GOP had been pressing on believing that the superiority of its ideas would allow it to outlast its opponent in the end—but in the meantime, it looks like they’re losing. So along comes Trump saying “screw it. You Dems want MMA, I’ll drag you into the cage and we’ll do it MMA-style.” The two problems I have with that are 1) I don’t think a democratic republic can sustain a politics-ex-cage-fight scenario for long without either fracturing itself or converting into totalitarianism; and 2) even if it could—Trump aside, the Dems are simply better equipped to fight dirty than we are. You’re already seeing that with AOC, etc—in a boxing ring she’d be utterly incompetent, but we aren’t in a boxing ring anymore; and last I heard even Scott Adams was impressed. Am I pleasantly surprised with Trump’s judicial picks? Yep. Am I glad he hasn’t been more willing to let the Dems set the agenda? Absolutely. Do I love the way he’s re-energized folks like McConnell and Graham? You betcha. Is it fun to watch AOC expose herself to the point that Mike Lee can give her a good old-school roasting? Oh, heavens, yes. Do I take fiendish delight in the fact that he’s kept the left busy for two years accusing him of the ONE slimy thing he isn’t actually guilty of? Mais oui. But I still believe Trump is the political equivalent of amphetamines, and I think as a party and a nation we’re in for one heckuva detox. (I also have my standard compunction about Trump miserably failing D&C 93, but I’ve been told that’s neither here nor there, because God is dead, or something.) As far as foreign alliances go—effective diplomacy seems to rely on trust, stability, deliberation, and competence. Trump doesn’t exude any of those (I do feel he is improving on stability and competence), and our foreign policy has somewhat suffered. But it’s also fair to point out that we are at a strategic crossroads. Even if you’re mildly interventionist like me (I’m inclined to feel like it’s probably better to lose 3,000 soldiers/year for a hundred years, then to lose half a million soldiers in World War III—*IF*, by those low-burner conflicts, you can actually prevent the world war)—it’s not at all clear to me that the old network of alliances with grifter-states and kleptocracies is serving that purpose. Maybe what we need for a couple of years is for NATO and Japan and India and South Korea and the third world nations of South America and Africa to honestly believe we’re willing to see the Russkies and Chinese and the NorKos swallow them up; while we take a few years to focus on our armed forces and infrastructure security not sucking any more and give the rest of the world some time to think about who the bad guys really are. We’re supposed to be a city on a hill—those who love liberty will naturally find us attractive if we stick to our principles; but making the rest of the world *like* us or reinvent itself in our image was never part of our national charter. So foreign-policy-wise, I’m less concerned about what Trump says he wants to do; than about whether his personal shortcomings thwart his attempts to enact his own agenda.
    2 points
  8. anatess2

    Eroding Friendships

    So... just a friendly reminder from your resident 3rd-Worlder that throughout the entirety of human history - and that includes today - this is the normal: This is the anomaly: Okay, carry on.
    2 points
  9. It would take a LOT for me to ever vote for Trump. I do not think I'm even close to voting for him now. Most likely, I'd vote for just about anyone who ran against him. That said, this entire impeachment idea seems more like a witch hunt akin to the Salem witch trials than anything legitimate. I think the fanaticism of the media and others in the Democrat party has only hurt them and their aspirations among those who are not among the far left.
    2 points
  10. I appreciate you posting the article. I was a Never Trumper. I still don't like him, and doubt that I ever will. He is crass, dishonest, and has done serious damage to alliances I think are vital to our security (NATO, South Korea, etc.). Yet the media's blatant bias against him and honestly anyone to the right of Trotsky has left me in the same position as @Vort. I am starting to not trust anything they say about him at all, and I'm seriously considering voting for him next November (I voted third party last election for the first and so far only time in my life). I've dropped all major news publications that I used to at least somewhat trust, and have focused on gleaning what truth I can from the AP. Maybe that's a good thing, I'm more vigilant about what I hear than ever before in my life, but I want the press to do their job. I don't want misleading clickbait articles and gleeful jumping onto whatever they call the next big scandal. While I am right wing, I appreciate this article and hope that someday the press can get back to being the 4th branch of the government they are supposed to be. I don't believe they will, but hey I try to be somewhat optimistic. Thanks for the thought provoking discussion.
    2 points
  11. @SpiritDragon Thanks! What a mess! Our governments certainly provide entertainment.
    2 points
  12. To be honest I was never clear on just what happened with the helicopter fiasco... Some potentially light shedding info from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Sea_King_replacement
    2 points
  13. Sunday21, do you think that, just maybe, you're swallowing the leftist media's nonsensical ideas? Or do you really believe that your Republican friends on this forum are actively seeking to repress the voting of their political opponents?
    2 points
  14. Yet look at this absolutely shameless hypocrisy from CNN: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/03/28/reality-check-donald-trump-political-opponents-evil-sot-vpx-avlon-newday.cnn CNN, who has been calling conservatives evil for more than a decade, now decides that's not nice and that Republicans shouldn't do it. The "shocking" 42% of people who describe members of the opposition party as "evil"? Hah hah. That's been the Democrat norm for at least twenty years. If the Republicans are doing that now, they have a long way to go to catch up with the Democrats.
    2 points
  15. That doesn't make sense. If you doubt she has time for herself, why would she think she has time for child?
    2 points
  16. unixknight

    Why Vintage Computing?

    This is a full scale rant. You have been warned. In a little corner of my basement, in what was once a darkroom before I bought the house, is my vintage computer workshop. And on a counter in that workshop are a couple of Commodore 64s, some disk drives, a disassembled Commodore 128, and a flat screen monitor that has been adapted to accept video inputs from machine that were old when Bill Clinton was President. Yet just 10 or 15 feet away at my desk, is an HP laptop with processing power and memory that is several orders of magnitude more than all the computers in my workshop combined. Next to it is the gaming rig I built last year to do my Christian game reviews, which itself has - literally - a million times the RAM, moves over 3 billion times faster than the old CPUs, and has a hard drive which has over a billion times the capacity of the floppy disks used by the old machines. And yet, I love my Commodores far, far more... even though I'm a software engineer and I work in modern software development, not vintage computing. Why? Because this is 2019, where every computerized device we own is constantly screaming for our attention every minute. I went on a rant about this last night and I think for a moment my wife was getting nervous that I was having a mental breakdown it was so intense. When I wake up in the morning, my phone is already slamming out the notifications. Formula 1 practice sessions are starting! You have an E-mail! Text text text text text!!!! That thing you bought on Amazon is gonna arrive today and YOU NEED TO KNOW IT RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH, AND I'LL REMIND YOU 5 MORE TIMES TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My car alerts me that it wants an oil change when I get in it to go to work, or when the fuel is low, or when a tire is low, or when my parking brake is on... You know, I'm old enough to remember when a couple of gauges and dash lights were sufficient to relay this information to me... but I guess this is 2019 where somebody believes I'm too dumb to understand unless a computer slams it in my face with some kind of digital screen and forces me to hit an 'OK' button so that I can go back to what I was doing... My work computer yells at me all day that I have E-mails, Skype messages, it wants a software update, it wants a restart to apply updates... etc. Every other webpage I visit both at home or at work has ads that pop up in my face. I get home and my computer is screaming at me that I have E-mails and Skype messages and oh, I WANT UPDATES TOO. (To be fair, my regular computer at home runs Linux and isn't nearly as obnoxious as Windows... But when I turn on that gaming rig, which runs Windows... ) My phone meanwhile has alerted me to messages form my kids' school about insipid nonsense I can't be bothered to give a fig about, like how some kid found a garter snake in his locker but not to worry, no kids were hurt and the snake was let go back in the woods. And of course those messages come in via text AND phonecall/voicemail so there's NO WAY I CAN GO UNINFORMED ABOUT THE GARTER SNAKE. I'm even getting notifications about notifications. Meta-notifications? Mind you, I do not have Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. If I did, I'm sure by now all the additional notifications would have driven me into full-on insanity. Yes, I'm aware that notifications can (usually) be turned off... but we're always installing and updating applications, and sometimes their notifications settings reset when you do this, BY DEFAUT. I even have a notification on my phone to tell me my "do not disturb" is on. I sometimes want to rage against the noise and scream I. DO. NOT. CARE. I do NOT need to know the second every single E-mail hits my inbox. I will check E-mail when I check it and not an instant sooner so why do I need this? I don't CARE what you want to sell me and I don't CARE that F1 practice starts in 5 minutes I only watch the races. And I don't CARE about an Amazon shipment changing hands in West Undershirt, KY I only care about when it'll hit my front porch and yes, I know exactly where to go to get that information when I want it. No, Waze, I don't need to know about the traffic volume generated by a Redskins game when I'm not even going anywhere NEAR it today. No, Windows I don't care that Cortana has some tips for organizing my desktop and quite frankly if I could uninstall it I would. I feel mentally exhausted by the constant need, by every device I own more complex than a toaster, to get my attention... ...but not my Commodore. It just sits there quietly, ready for me when I want to use it but staying silent otherwise. It doesn't shout at me. It doesn't block what I'm doing to show me messages, it doesn't fill its screen with icons. It just does what I want it to do and not one. single. thing. more. I know that notification settings can be adjusted. I know there are ad blockers. I know I know I know... But these ads, these apps, these websites... It's like an arms race where they try to come up with ever more sneaky sophisticated ways to get around that and clamor for attention anyway. You can get some peace and quiet for a while, but only as long as it takes one of them to figure out how to push through your shields and get you that INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE RIGHT FREAKING NOW!!!!!!! We live in a world where human attention has become a commodity, and many of these things are efforts to harvest it right from the source: us. Ads, notices about ads, offers, deals, special events... all of it is getting bolder, louder and more ubiquitous... and our electronic devices are the highway from them to our eyeballs. So yeah. That's why I buy and restore vintage computers. They remind me of a time when computers in the home were our servants, and not delivery systems for advertisements.
    1 point
  17. https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/22/us/mormon-lds-name-change-revelation/index.html As such articles go, this one is pretty good. Some minor gaffes, of course; when dealing with our religion, no reporter seems ever to really get it right. But on the whole, pretty accurate, I think. Of course, time must be given to dissenters and such. Whatever. I'm sure this comes across as cultishly ignorant to the leftist metropolitan self-anointed elite that read it, but that's okay. The gospel of Christ has never been embraced and appreciated by the cool kids.
    1 point
  18. Not a chance. That would put at least 50 electoral votes for the Socialists.
    1 point
  19. Perfectly worded, Wade! There’s this new-fangled idea that “Diversity is Our Strength”. No no no. Diversity is a weakness. Unity of Values among a diverse people is where the strength lies.
    1 point
  20. mnn2501

    Computer cord endings

    I do IT Support and those types of Cables/monitors are still in use and will be for years to come, especially for computers with multiple monitors (one will be that type)
    1 point
  21. My problem is: Studying the scriptures (mostly the bible) is what made me an atheist. The stories and messages in the bible... I don't even know where to start and I don't want to rant, so I'll just say: They didn't *inspire* me. 😏 And learning what god said and did according to the bible showed me that even if I knew for a fact that he exists, I couldn't worship him. Also, reading books about the history of the bible, how it was put together etc. didn't help either. Anyways - I just have to ask about this: I read about the garments on the lds-website and it said When worn properly, the garment provides protection against temptation and evil. What does that mean? Do you believe it protects you from *doing* evil things or that it protects you from something evil happening to you? Or both?
    1 point
  22. Honestly this doesn't surprise me. Republicans tend to prioritize U.S. interests over those of other nations more than Democrats do, (at least, that's the perception, and this is all about perception.) and of course everything we do gets exaggerated.
    1 point
  23. Scott, correct me if I’m wrong, but some of those Pew stats went back to 2001. And speaking anecdotally (and yes, I realize that’s problematic), western Europe was complaining about Reagan’s boat-rocking and cold warrioring right up until the Berlin Wall actually fell. Blaming Bush-II and the Iraq War smacks of revisionist history to me. It seems more likely there have been fundamental cultural and philosophical differences separating us from “Old Europe” since 1776 on a variety of topics including limited government, self-sufficiency, religion, public morality, quid-pro-quo governance, anti-elitism, and the like. Democrats over the last fifty years have sought to erase those differences; whereas Republicans have been more wont to celebrate them. And Europe hates us for it.
    1 point
  24. This one's a tough issue because, to be honest, I'm glad he's pulled us out of a couple really bad deals. It's true you don't want a reputation for your country to be one of not sticking to treaties, but at the same time there may be a lesser of two evils issue there. A bad treaty is a bad treaty, and sometimes you have to take the hit to your reputation if that looks like a better alternative. Time will tell whether they were the right decisions.
    1 point
  25. zil

    Computer cord endings

    (Only remotely accurate of my online persona, though. The real thing is a different matter.) As for not posting much, I'm basically on my way out, can't drum up the interest or the time - I've got my creative groove back and what's happening inside my head is far more interesting. I have to go now. I left three characters standing in the hallway and they're getting impatient to move on.
    1 point
  26. Hillary? What about Barack "Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility after the election" Obama who really did come off as Putin's Puppet? When the Russians wanted U.S. missile defense out of Poland, Obama was too happy to oblige them. (Not that I disagree with you about Clinton. I just think Obama is a better example of the raging hypocrisy of the MSM and anti-Trumpers when it comes to being chummy with the Russians.)
    1 point
  27. Yep exactly, those of us who want to keep Russia from dominating Europe. The thing is I do like some of the things Trump is doing (recognizing Israeli control of the Golan Heights is something I 100% support) but I don't like that unless I am a huge Trump Fanboy that has MAGA tattooed across my chest, that I get plastered as ignorant by people who are on my own side.
    1 point
  28. My heart goes out to you here, @AbramM. I know you feel a deep sense of loss with the situation, betrayal, anger, confusion, and vulnerability. You've strived your best to follow the Lord, and ended up in a curve-ball situation. My heart goes deeply out to you. You & your girl will be in my prayers.
    1 point
  29. Who wants to starve poor children and dance on their corpses? And speaking of child killers... MS13 are child killers.
    1 point
  30. On a different path, one that discusses the differences of the beliefs found in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints vs. that of those found in the Baptist religion, which in some ways DOES differ (most protestant religions differ in one area or another in belief, this is why there ARE different protestant religions rather than just one unified religion, though various churches [for example the Baptist have a stronger independent church tradition than say...the Presbyterians] can have very similar beliefs. To support the Trinity, there are various scriptures one uses. The most famous I would say would be as follows... Here it states that they are both separate and yet the same being in a protestant understanding. As it says, the Word was both With and WAS at the same time, Deity. And then, it says that the Word was made Flesh, and that no man hath seen the Father, but have seen the Son. There are other verses, but this is one that many Trinitarians can turn to for a particularly strong showing of scriptural backing of their belief. It does NOT state that they were ONE in purpose, but that they are actually ONE and the SAME. At the same time it also makes clear that they are DIFFERENT. At least from a basic reading of the KJV. On the otherhand, LDS take a notion of the aspect of oneness as found by a prayer known by almost every Catholic Child who has gone to the traditional school... However, the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe it states something definitively different than many Catholics would interpret and in this it reveals a distinct belief about the nature of deity. In this, the question arises, how can we be one the same as the Son and the Father are One? If they are one in essence, would that not also mean that we are too one in essence? Or does it mean that we are all the same essence as believers? The church, I do not feel, teaches this. Instead... In this the Church interprets it as one in purpose, or unity. It is not that we are of the same essence in the way that a Trinitarian from a Baptist Background will believe...IN MY OPINION. It is in no wise the same as the Protestant interpretation of the Trinity. I would that all would come and believe in the same Gospel that we believe in, but I also know that many choose not too and that many have their own belief. On this board I think we can freely advocate our views, but personally speaking, I do not find the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as closely aligned to the trinity as some may express it to be in the thread. I do not think we will convince one to become a member of our church by trying to convince them that we believe the same as they do, but rather to hopefully have them read and study our beliefs and then pray about them, while understanding the DIFFERENCES between what we believe and what others believe. At the same time, building upon common beliefs is also important, and I think it is essential to having better understanding between us and others. We have some very common beliefs between each other. I'm not sure trying to convince a solid Trinitarian that their belief is the same as an LDS belief is going to work, though. Off shoot of this, we simply do not know what @AbramM girlfriend believes. AS such, we are trying to tell him our beliefs and our ideas, independent of that. This is fine, and hopefully he understands this. I'm not sure this is doing much though. On my part, ironically, I think it is easy to be Baptist and actually go to LDS services. In Baptist belief, at least some of them, you are saved. One who is saved should KNOW that they are saved. IT causes an actual change or turning of heart. Once saved, you are SAVED. You are not suddenly UNSAVED. You have been saved by the Lord and that is an act that continues. He does not suddenly discharge this. You cannot lose your salvation once saved in most Baptist doctrine. This would be unfathomable and illogical. Once saved, you HAVE your salvation guaranteed. As someone who is saved, you can go to any service you want. You can basically do what you want, though your heart will not let you do something that is completely sinful or wrong. You have been saved, your sins forgiven and the grace of the Lord is sufficient. Why, then, if it is a permanent status, would one not be able go to LDS services? Sometimes it is better to turn the other cheek and go the extra mile than to do otherwise. HOWEVER, being unequally yoked can be destructive to ANY relationship. It is good for many to seek someone who is on the same level as they are. It can be hard for any marriage in this day and time to do well, more obstacles in the mix, such as different religious beliefs can make it even harder. Abram seems to be seeking one who has the same religious beliefs as he does. Religion seems to be the foundation of his life and he would want it to be the foundation of his marriage. This is commendable. I would say if he actually wants more knowledge on LDS beliefs, reading from the Book of Mormon could be a good start. However, looking at his actual request it appears that he has gotten his answer in that regard. He is working on that aspect (his girlfriend and finding a church) already. I don't think he came here to actually investigate the church (though learning about it is good I would hope) and instead sought answers for a good church to attend that would feel comfortable for both him and the girl he was dating. The answer is we do not know, but I'd still stick with the idea that if any church would be with what she shared with him, it would probably be a more traditional Baptist church that had a more traditional feel (traditional choir, etc.) or a Non-denominational church which tries to appeal to all sorts of ideas and views. Of course, for most of us who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints we would love to have him attend our church with his girlfriend. I'm not sure that is the answer he is seeking (but as I point out, I don't actually think there'd be much wrong with it from a Baptist point of view if he was SAVED already as he cannot lose that salvation in most Baptist beliefs). I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because I read the Book of Mormon and prayed about it. I was able to recognize the Holy Spirit telling me that the gospel was true. This is why I joined the Church at the time, not necessarily because I understood everything about it or even agreed with all the doctrines at the time. I, personally, have felt the Holy Spirit telling me that the gospel is true. However, though I would hope all could come to the same answer and feelings I did, I also understand that what worked for me and helped me may not be what is for everyone else or even what anyone else may want to do. He has his life and has some decisions and choices to make, which I think he is in the midst of.
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  31. I agree with Senator Mike Lee. The Green New Deal is a horrible joke. He pointed out some of the most terrible flaws in it. The most ridiculous thing I think I have heard in this is how methane released from cows is destroying the Earth.
    1 point
  32. No I do not think that Republican Party members are trying to repress the voting patterns of those with opossing views. But politicians of any political view trying to manipulate voting patterns? Yes I do believe this. As someone who lived In a nation’s capital, the political parties of any political stripe will move heaven and earth to manipulate any part of the system to increase their chances of election. And how will political parties do this? Change voting boundaries, commit fraud to direct opposition voters to the wrong location (Happened recently in Canada), buy alcohol for voters in exchange for votes (1970s Nova Scotia), invent scandals and don’t get me started on military helicopters. You don’t want to hear about those helicopters!
    1 point
  33. Vort

    Eroding Friendships

    False equivalence strikes again. The old man was trying to retrieve his property. For you to compare that to the battery committed by the thieving younger thug demonstrates this generation's inability to distinguish evil from other.
    1 point
  34. Guess what? By definition, they are not "the best newspapers and websites in the country".
    1 point
  35. As a lefty, I was very disappointed in the reporting of CNN and NBC. Both networks suggested that There was a strong case for impeachment which anyone with an understanding of the process knew to be highly unlikely.
    1 point
  36. Sunday21

    Computer cord endings

    Thank you so much! The pieces fit together. Many thanks!
    1 point
  37. Sounds like the family should have started the procedure towards due process as that threat was clearly a crime. And as you have answered in a somewhat idealistic manner, then shouldn't we say that anybody who will ever misuse a gun should not have access to one? For that matter, anybody who would ever need to have a gun used against them should not be able to roam free. Clearly, these idealistic responses are not enforceable. The real question then, as was earlier addressed in this thread, is how a determination should be made in order to remove a person's rights. Any method other than a conviction through due process of law is a slippery slope. 14th Amendment: ..."nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..." If we are going to allow "medical professionals" to make the decisions as to who should have their rights removed, as was hinted by someone else in the thread, we should just go ahead and reopen the asylums. I am very uncomfortable with such an idea and you should be as well. In terms of emergency situations, Joseph Smith already gave the appropriate response: D&C 134:11 We believe that men should appeal to the civil law for redress of all wrongs and grievances, where personal abuse is inflicted or the right of property or character infringed, where such laws exist as will protect the same; but we believe that all men are justified in defending themselves, their friends, and property, and the government, from the unlawful assaults and encroachments of all persons in times of exigency, where immediate appeal cannot be made to the laws, and relief afforded. Just my $.02, and chances are good that you'd rather just give me back my change. 😀
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  38. We were in a small Ward when my wife was in the YW Presidency. The local Walmart let them have a table around Christmas time on a Friday night and Saturday to wrap gifts and accept donations - the table was outside but this was in Florida so it was not really cold. They also held a car wash in the Church parking lot. And had an auction for services they could provide - baby sitting, cleaning, yard work, tutoring, etc The YM did the auction thing also and also held a spaghetti dinner (Someone should have helped them to cook as the food was terrible but they raised money). They also did a 'garage" sale in the Church parking lot with items donated by members (anything left over at the end was donated to Good Will)
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  39. Clearly you don't spend enough time reading handbook 2. IMO, everything we have indicates with perfect clarity that God wants children to only be born to a father and mother who are sealed for time and all eternity. Anything less than that varies from tragic to tolerable to intolerable to willful rejection of God's commands. IMO, this falls into the latter category.
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  40. https://www.lds.org/study/manual/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies-and-guidelines/selected-church-policies?lang=eng#title_number71 Especially: Handbook 2 answers a multitude of questions.
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  41. It doesn't change the fact that A CHILD DESERVES A MOTHER AND A FATHER. She should not be spreading her misfortune by making innocent victims.
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  42. There is no debate about this. A child deserves a MOTHER and a FATHER under the covenant of MARRIAGE. A child is not a Barbie Doll.
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  43. The Tauntaun is not docile enough to use in Alaska, also, it is not cold enough there for the beasts to survive in Alaska. Sheesh, you think he would know this. Also, without a good supply of Wampa, the Tauntaun population would get completely out of control and decimate the environment there. Mike Lee should know these things if he indeed watched the documentary from 1980.
    1 point
  44. Sunday21

    Craziest situation ever

    By the way, I went to my therapist today. I took emails from my family. My therapist told me to: chnage locks on my doors tell my family to take a flying leap. Screen my calls Set boundaries! Thank you for your encouragement! ❤️
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  45. At this point there does seem to be an open discussion of the Trinity. Perhaps I am mistaken, but the general counsel that @AbramM has received concerning his girlfriend is to have an open, direct conversation about where she is really at (committed LDS vs. not-committed and open to traditional Christian churches). After that is resolved, @AbramM has indicated he is willing to pursue or leave her, depending on where she is spiritually. So...if the only purpose of the Trinity discussion here is to get the OP to believe there really isn't much difference between the two beliefs, with no input from his fellow Protestants, then I would suggest that that's odd. The difference is significant. It's so significant there's been the suggestion that LDS Christianity should be seen as a whole new branch, rather than as a Protestant denomination (an Idea I agreed with, btw). Can we say it's that big, and then that it's no big deal?
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  46. I have to admit, homerun for Senator Lee. What an awesome rejection of the Green New Deal. I like him even more now than I did before.
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  47. It's not. Colorado doesn't want to be Utah. And my hope is that they wouldn't as far as gun laws are concerned. In my opinion (just basing off your description of the law), the Utah law is unconstitutional.
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  48. If they aren't a convicted felon, is there any reason that someone's right to keep and bear arms should be limited?
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  49. IMO, when something like this happens, complacency is by far a bigger danger than road conditions. Absolutely a bigger danger for fires, chemical spills, hurricanes, tsunamis, and acts of war/terror. You have A Big Honkin' Event (tm). You think to yourself "Better hunker down and ride it out". The news is telling you about evacuation areas and danger zones. You think to yourself "It won't make it here." Your cell phone goes off, telling you the Sheriff is evacuating your neighborhood. You say to your family "We'll stay behind and make sure looters don't get our stuff." It is really, really hard to shake off complacency and throw a bunch of your most prized possessions in your car, and abandon your house. Especially when you don't see the immediate danger. Stuff got a bit easier for me to understand, once I learned that cops deal with "massive civil unrest" every Saturday night at closing time downtown. It also got easier for me once it dawned on me that most evacuateable things are of limited scope and short duration. The fire gets put out. The riot ends. The zombie outbreak is contained. The tsunami comes and goes. The earthquake happens, and then there's a scary week of aftershocks, and then it stops. Even with massive hurricanes that take lives and remove power from millions - law and order might go away for an hour or a day or a week, but humans require order, and we all work to get it back as quickly as possible. True blue tinfoil-hat-nutcase prepping is cool, but it presupposes something without an end date. Economic collapse. EMP burst affecting the continental US. We all wake up one morning and find out AOC has been president for two years, and the brownshirts are knocking at your door because you're a Christian. Zombie outbreak that is the new normal. But that really never happens in the US. Every disaster we see coming, breeds it's own demise. Take Y2K for example. It would have been horrible, except we saw it coming for a decade and corporate America funded staffing to run projects that had nothing happen. Boring! Anyway, if you end up driving on train tracks to escape the Golden Horde, come on over to my bunker out in the middle of nowhere. Just come quick.
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  50. My best piece of advice is to expand your idea of a fundraiser. Read Handbook 2 13.6.8, and take notice of the following phrase: "Stakes and wards that sponsor fund-raising activities should not advertise or solicit beyond their boundaries. Nor should they sell products or services door to door." My guess is that if you only have 50 members attending sacrament meeting, you have a fairly large geographical boundary. See if you can come up with a fundraiser that isn't dependent on just the ward membership. If you pursue such a fundraiser, invest in some matching t-shirts for your group, and teach them to identify themselves to customers and explain the purpose of the fundraiser. "Fundraiser for church" is not going to gain as much positive support as "fundraiser to help our youth group pay for supplies for a week long summer camp" will get a pretty good reception.
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